Curse

freekedoutfish · Oct 21, 2007, 02:25 PM // 14:25

Why not use the same machanism from GWEN in Factions?

1) We get a handbook the instant you start your training, and its explained how to use it.
2) It then fills a page for every mission and/or primary quest you complete.
3)You can then give it to either a Luxon and Kuzack NPC the during the Devine path or Unwaking waters or a capital city.
4) You then (depending on the NPC) choose to exchange it for faction points (luxon or kuzack), rare material (amber or shard) or gold and experience points.

At a certain luxon or kuzack rank it will stop giving rewards for NM and you will have to start using a HM handbook.

We already have shrines giving bounties, which was taken from NF and GWEN, so why not the handbooks too?

This will also incourage people playing NM to try HM which has always been an issue ingame. It will make earning factons points alot more realistic and fun. It will make it more realistic to increase the effectiveness of pve only skills.

I know alot will complain it incourages more grind, but be realistic...

...at the minute you can only earn very few faction points from doing the odd repeatable quest or playing FA. Something which kind of alienates those who dont like playing pvp/gvg style combat or dont want to repeat the exact same quest over and over again.

Aslong as the NM and HM book gave realistic faction levels, then it should work. It would have to be higher reward then in GWEN because the max levels are alot higher.

This would also help intergrate the idea of handbook, so people dont feel confused when they reach GWEN.

Note:

You could maybe use them in prophercies somehow and/or NightFall for LB and SS points. But im not sure how in prophercies.

Maybe you could also tie this into the Luxon/Kuzack war and only allow you to exchange the book if your side owns unwaking waters in the same fashion as the skills.

Wish Swiftdeath · Oct 21, 2007, 02:33 PM // 14:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Why not use the same machanism from GWEN in Factions?

1) We get a handbook the instant you start your training, and its explained how to use it.
2) It then fills a page for every mission and/or primary quest you complete.
3)You can then give it to either a Luxon and Kuzack NPC the during the Devine path or Unwaking waters or a capital city.
4) You then (depending on the NPC) choose to exchange it for faction points (luxon or kuzack), rare material (amber or shard) or gold and experience points.

At a certain luxon or kuzack rank it will stop giving rewards for NM and you will have to start using a HM handbook.

We already have shrines giving bounties, which was taken from NF and GWEN, so why not the handbooks too?

This will also incourage people playing NM to try HM which has always been an issue ingame. It will make earning factons points alot more realistic and fun. It will make it more realistic to increase the effectiveness of pve only skills.

I know alot will complain it incourages more grind, but be realistic...

...at the minute you can only earn very few faction points from doing the odd repeatable quest or playing FA. Something which kind of alienates those who dont like playing pvp/gvg style combat or dont want to repeat the exact same quest over and over again.

Aslong as the NM and HM book gave realistic faction levels, then it should work. It would have to be higher reward then in GWEN because the max levels are alot higher.

This would also help intergrate the idea of handbook, so people dont feel confused when they reach GWEN.

Note:

You could maybe use them in prophercies somehow and/or NightFall for LB and SS points. But im not sure how in prophercies.

Maybe you could also tie this into the Luxon/Kuzack war and only allow you to exchange the book if your side owns unwaking waters in the same fashion as the skills.

i still wouldnt grind points but it seems like a good idea. I always look for bounty when i leave outpost in Proph+factions before realising my mistake.

/signed for others

MithranArkanere · Oct 21, 2007, 04:56 PM // 16:56

The rewards are not just points.

So they could even give books for EACH campaign.
For making its missions in normal and hard mode.
Completing a book in Prophecies would give just gold and exp, in factions gold, exp and points and in nightfall the same, with the Lightbringer and Sunspear.

CHunterX · Oct 21, 2007, 05:07 PM // 17:07

I'd like to see Sunspear and Lightbringer books as well, before I end up grinding from Rank 9 to Rank 10 (a whopping 3x more points, I might add).

Onarik Amrak · Oct 21, 2007, 05:29 PM // 17:29

Great idea. Might make high rank Lux/Kurz actually accessible...

/signed

Witchblade · Oct 21, 2007, 07:58 PM // 19:58

signed but you wont prolly see that kinda of implementation in older chapters

it's like asking for GWEN-like henchies

Enas · Oct 22, 2007, 07:32 AM // 07:32

/signed

Handbooks are one of the top inventions of GW:EN, would be nice to see them implemented in earlier chapters.

cellardweller · Oct 22, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

There should be similar mechanisms available in older campaigns, however the book system itself is problematic due to the huge storage requirements.

Nyree · Oct 25, 2007, 07:06 PM // 19:06

The handbooks are a very good new feature of the game, i really would like these for each campaign.

/signed

glountz · Oct 25, 2007, 07:10 PM // 19:10

/signed
12 characters FTW

jarrak · Oct 25, 2007, 07:33 PM // 19:33

/NOT signed

handbooks are for GW:EN and thats it, if you wanna have them in NF / Factions they have to redo the titles, Anet already lowered luxon/kurzick title points and if they add the book in NF they have to raise the LB and SS title means that people have to work again after achieving max title after loads of time in grinding or working on it...

so i say, keep it as it is...

and for wish swiftdeath - you can gain blessing in factions so use em

freekedoutfish · Oct 25, 2007, 07:48 PM // 19:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by jarrak

/NOT signed

handbooks are for GW:EN and thats it, if you wanna have them in NF / Factions they have to redo the titles, Anet already lowered luxon/kurzick title points and if they add the book in NF they have to raise the LB and SS title means that people have to work again after achieving max title after loads of time in grinding or working on it...

so i say, keep it as it is...

and for wish swiftdeath - you can gain blessing in factions so use em

Exactly why would this force them to increase the LB and SS max levels? and why exactly would anything need to be re-done to the luxon or kurzack titles? Im not asking for any title changes, just to add ways to earn them!

You seem to be over complicating this!

Shiishii Momo · Oct 25, 2007, 08:19 PM // 20:19

Fail. If you want Lux/Kur poins just leech in AB like everyone else.

Winterclaw · Oct 25, 2007, 09:46 PM // 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Why not use the same machanism from GWEN in Factions?

Because Anet never makes substantial changes to past games.

I mean NF could use it as well, but we aren't going to see it there either.

kazjun · Oct 26, 2007, 12:02 AM // 00:02

/signed

Would be nice to see, but I doubt it would happen.

VitisVinifera · Oct 26, 2007, 12:06 AM // 00:06

/signed

great suggestion, Freeked. The only problem is they'd have to make primaries repeatable in Factions, and many people who made it through Factions missions probably are still traumatized by them and never want to look back (Eternal Grove, Tahnnakai Temple, the other one you have to have foreign/local team to beat 2344354564234 afflicteds)

TheGuildWarsPenguin · Oct 26, 2007, 12:42 AM // 00:42

/signed
win.